Margeson,
T.C.C.J.
(orally):—
This
matter
for
decision
was
heard
under
the
informal
procedure,
Troop
v.
Her
Majesty
The
Queen,
92-834(IT).
The
respondent
agreed
at
the
beginning
that
there
was
no
issue
with
the
appellant
regarding
the
years
in
question,
1987
and
1988,
as
to
the
expenses
sought
to
be
deducted,
that
is,
in
the
sense
that
they
were
incurred.
Neither
was
there
any
issue
as
to
the
amount
of
expenses
that
were
incurred.
The
Minister
was
not
arguing
either
that
the
expenses
that
were
made
were
personal
or
living
expenses.
The
Minister
is
not
admitting
that
the
expenses
were
incurred
by
a“
"business".
The
only
question
before
the
Court
is
whether
or
not
there
was
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit
in
the
years
1987
and
1988,
by
Mr.
Troop
from
his
Amway
enterprise.
The
respondent's
position
is
set
out
in
the
reply
to
the
notice
of
appeal
paragraph
5.B,
where
counsel
for
the
respondent
says:
5.
The
issue
is
whether
the
expenditures
claimed
by
the
appellant
in
relation
to
his
Amway
activities
during
the
1987
and
1988
taxation
years
were
expenditures
made
or
incurred
for
the
purpose
of
gaining
or
producing
income
[sic]
from
a
business.
As
well,
the
respondent
is
arguing
that
there
is
no
reasonable
expectation
of
profit.
The
appellant
introduced
documentary
evidence
which
was
admitted
into
evidence
by
agreement,
and
he
also
gave
viva
voce
evidence.
The
appellant’s
position
in
his
evidence
was
that
he
ran
a
business
during
the
years
in
question
out
of
his
home.
Exhibit
A-1,
contained
the
tax
returns,
information
and
supporting
documentation
of
the
appellant
for
the
years
1983
to
1990.
In
addition
to
this
evidence
and
Schedule
1
and
Schedule
2,
which
are
attached
to
the
reply
to
the
notice
of
appeal,
the
appellant
gave
further
testimony
with
respect
to
the
years
1990
and
1991.
The
appellant
said
that
in
1990
there
were
gross
sales
of
$132,150
showing
a
profit
of
$4,209,
and
in
1991
there
were
gross
sales
of
$181,942
which
would
show
a
profit
of
$977.
The
appellant
said
in
his
evidence
that
whatever
happened,
what
monies
were
earned
were
subject
to
volume.
Volume
was
the
important
consideration.
His
business,
as
the
Court
understands
the
evidence
was
a
wholesale
business.
He
went
out
and
recruited
other
people.
The
more
he
recruited,
I
presume,
the
more
they
would
sell.
The
better
he
recruited,
the
more
they
would
sell,
and
therefore
the
more
he
would
make.
His
income
came
from
bonuses.
It
was
a
simple
formula.
Bonuses
in
minus
bonuses
out
equalled
income
to
the
appellant.
The
appellant
said
it
was
different
from
a
regular
business.
Some
of
the
things
that
make
it
different,
there
are
no
employers
but
themselves,
there
are
no
inventories,
really.
The
goods
are
really
pre-sold.
"There
are
no
accounts
receivable.
Our
profit
is
dependent
upon
recruiting
brokers",
if
you
can
call
them
that.
"We
do
have
expenses,
however",
and
the
expenses
are
ongoing,
he
said.
The
expenses
were
clearly
defined,
although
they
go
up
and
down
in
amount
depending
upon
the
volume
of
sales.
It
is
clear
that
this
enterprise,
unlike
a
lot
of
Amway
enterprises,
was
run
in
a
pretty
neat
manner.
The
respondent
has
accepted
that,
by
admitting
as
he
did,
that
the
expenses
made
were
directed
toward
this
enterprise
and
that
they
were
not
fraudulent
and
they
were
not
personal
living
expenses.
The
appellant
himself
said
he
kept
a
logbook
of
his
miles
travelled
and
there
are
no
expenses
claimed
there
that
were
personal.
The
appellant
said
he
is
retired
now
and
is
sticking
at
the
business
at
hand
full-time.
They
are
building
it
for
the
future
is
what
his
evidence
disclosed.
He
said
he
has
no
bank
loans
and
what
they
have
is
theirs.
The
appellant
says
it
can
be
seen
that
they
are
trying
to
create
a
business
that
is
viable.
The
revenue
is
increasing
and
has
increased
substantially
over
the
last
number
of
years.
We
only
have
to
look
at
the
documentary
evidence
before
the
Court
to
establish
that.
The
appellant
said
they
are
still
in
business,
as
far
as
he
is
concerned.
He
is
continuing
to
try
to
develop
it.
The
appellant
referred
to
a
letter,
Exhibit
A-2,
which
is
a
reply
from
Revenue
Canada
which
he
says
suggests
that
the
Minister
was
satisfied
that
in
the
year
referred
to
in
the
letter
that
the
business
had
increased
substantially.
The
Court
takes
his
argument
to
be
that
there
is
evidence
in
itself
that
things
were
getting
better.
Exhibit
A-3
was
introduced,
which
was
the
covering
letter
to
Exhibit
A-2.
The
documents
introduced
show
the
efforts
that
were
made
by
the
appellant
to
make
this
business
viable.
Those
were
the
efforts
which
were
referred
to
the
Minister
when
the
question
was
raised
as
to
how
he
intended
to
make
a
profit.
The
appellant
referred
to
paragraph
4(g)
of
the
reply
to
the
notice
of
appeal
and
took
issue
with
that,
where
the
Minister
was
alleging
that
the
expenses
were
not
incurred
for
the
purpose
of
earning
income
and,
further,
that
the
expenses
were
personal
in
nature.
He
said
they
were
not.
He
gave
figures
setting
out
the
difference
in
the
bonuses
paid
out
in
the
various
years.
The
Court
has
a
list
of
the
figures
and
I
will
refer
to
those
in
my
decision.
The
appellant
did
say
further
in
his
evidence,
that
the
percentage
of
bonuses
paid
out
to
total
sales
was
23
per
cent
for
the
year
1990
and
40
per
cent
for
the
year
1991.
In
cross-examination,
the
appellant
admitted
that
he
had
no
proof
of
the
1991
figures,
but
he
did
say
they
were
submitted
to
Revenue
Canada.
They
have
been
undisputed
here,
so
that
is
the
evidence
that
we
have,
that
he
submitted
them
to
Revenue
Canada.
The
appellant
said
in
1983,
his
intention
was
to
operate
a
viable
business
with
profit.
He
said
he
saw
security
down
the
road,
he
had
plans.
He
saw
a
chance
to
set
it
up
for
a
profit.
He
did
admit
that
there
was
no
projection
of
sales.
He
did
not
sit
down
and
project
how
many
sales
he
would
expect
in
each
of
the
years
in
question.
He
went
out
and
started
the
business
and
Exhibit
A-4
shows
the
results
between
1982
and
1990,
and
further
he
showed
the
results
in
1991.
The
appellant
was
asked
what
happened
in
1990
to
enable
him
to
show
a
profit.
He
testified
that
he
went
to
an
early
retirement
seminar
and
he
decided
if
he
took
early
retirement,
he
was
going
to
have
to
get
another
means
of
income,
either
put
his
wife
out
to
work
or
get
another
job
himself
or
make
this
enterprise
work.
“I
could
take
the
enterprise
and
put
more
time
into
it,
get
more
business,
get
more
volume,
get
more
profit.”
That
was
his
intention.
According
to
the
questions
asked
about
1990,
he
answered:
"I
spent
every
evening
at
it.”
The
appellant
said
he
could
not
give
the
number
of
people
that
were
recruited
in
1987
and
1988.
Exhibit
A-2
was
introduced.
His
evidence
indicated
that
the
business
is
a
wholesale
one.
No
accounts
receivable,
he
said.
Profits
depend
upon
the
amount
of
recruiting,
the
type
of
brokers
that
he
gets
and
the
volume
of
sales.
Thee
were
low
start-up
fees,
and
any
low
income
family
apparently
can
get
involved
in
the
organization
without
too
much
capital
up
front.
I
presume
that
means
from
his
point
of
view
that
it
should
be
easier
to
recruit
people,
they
do
not
need
a
large
amount
of
investment
at
the
beginning
and
therefore
that
assists
him
in
developing
the
network
that
he
needs.
The
appellant
was
asked
to
explain
why
there
was
no
profit
in
1987
and
1988,
the
two
years
in
question,
plus
of
course
the
other
years
from
1982,
when
there
was
no
profit,
"Even
though
you
say
you
had
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit".
One
of
the
answers
the
appellant
gave
was,
"the
volume
was
not
there”.
The
Court
will
comment
on
that
when
it
comes
to
making
its
decision.
In
1990,
the
appellant
said
he
tried
harder.
He
found
people
to
do
what
he
wanted
to
do.
In
other
words,
he
found
the
proper
people.
He
found
people
that
were
interested
in
doing
this
kind
of
work.
The
more
they
became
interested,
of
course,
the
better
off
he
was
because
the
better
agents
they
became.
The
appellant
was
not
going
to
make
anything
unless
he
got
good
agents
and
they
sold.
That
is
where
his
bonuses
came
from.
Therefore,
there
were
more
people
and
better
people
to
recruit,
he
said,
more
people
who
wanted
to
do
the
type
of
thing
that
he
wanted
them
to
do
and
what
he
wanted
to
do.
He
decided
to
put
in
more
time.
The
appellant
said
that
one
of
the
reasons
was
that
in
1990
there
was
a
downturn
in
the
economy
and
because
of
the
economic
situation
better
people
became
available,
recruiting
was
better.
It
was
different
in
1990
than
it
was
in
1987
and
1988.
In
re-direct
he
merely
said
that,
"We
did
what
we
thought
we
had
a
right
to
do”,
and
that
is
to
deduct
the
expenditures.
He
did
not
regard
it
as
a
tax
shelter
and
he
did
not
think
they
did
anything
wrong.
Whether
he
did
anything
wrong
is
not
the
issue
before
this
Court.
The
issue
before
the
Court
is
whether
or
not
the
expenditures
were
deductible
against
income.
In
argument
the
respondent
says
the
testimony
given
shows
that
there
were
no
projections
of
income,
which
is
just
part
of
what
a
person
that
claims
he
is
in
business
has
to
do.
It
is
one
of
the
things
people
who
go
into
business
do
in
order
to
show
that
there
was
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit.
The
respondent
says
the
appellant
had
no
plans
in
1983
when
he
started
the
business.
He
just
started
it
up
and
watched
it
go
and
hoped
that
it
would
be
profitable.
There
is
no
question
that
the
appellant
had
the
intention
of
it
being
profitable,
but
it
is
argued
that
he
did
not
do
anything
more
than
that.
The
respondent
said
that
the
evidence
disclosed
that
there
were
no
start-up
fees,
there
were
no
mark-up
costs,
there
were
no
employees,
no
inventory
and
that
one
needed
little
money
to
start
up.
From
that,
it
is
argued,
if
there
was
a
chance
to
make
money
it
should
have
come
early,
not
as
in
many
cases
where
the
argument
is
"I
didn't
make
a
profit
in
the
first
number
of
years
because
I
had
all
these
start-up
costs".
The
respondent
says
there
were
no
start-up
costs,
a
fortiori
there
should
have
been
a
profit.
The
respondent
says
the
appellant
was
a
full-time
employee
during
1987
and
1988
and
therefore
he
could
not
put
the
time
into
it
that
he
needed
in
order
to
make
it
profitable
and
he
could
not
do
that
until
he
retired.
It
was
a
new
business
in
1990,
the
year
he
showed
a
profit.
This
was
a
new
business
from
what
he
had
in
1987
and
1988.
The
appellant
tried
harder,
he
worked
harder.
He
decided
to
make
a
business
out
of
it.
The
respondent's
position
was
that
there
was
no
reasonable
expectation
of
profit
in
1987
and
1988,
or
for
the
earlier
years
and
thereafter,
until
1990
and
1991
when
there
was
a
profit
according
to
the
evidence
that
we
have
before
us.
The
respondent
says
that
it
was
nothing
more
than
a
hobby
until
he
retired
and
then
he
started
to
make
a
go
of
it,
he
started
to
look
at
it
in
a
business
sense.
The
respondent
refers
to
Moldowan
v.
The
Queen,
[1978]
1
S.C.R.
480,
[1977]
C.T.C.
310,
77
D.T.C.
5213,
which
is
the
leading
case
on
reasonable
expectation
of
profit.
In
essence,
the
Moldowan,
supra,
case
says
that
in
order
for
you
to
be
entitled
to
deduct
expenses,
there
must
be
a
stream
of
income
against
which
you
can
deduct
the
expenses.
Further,
it
says,
in
order
for
there
to
be
a
business
in
the
sense
as
it
is
referred
to
in
the
Income
Tax
Act,
R.S.C.
1952,
c.
148
(am.
S.C.
1970-71-72,
c.
63)
(the
"Act"),
there
must
be
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit
from
your
enterprise,
otherwise
there
is
no
business.
It
is
argued
here
that
there
is
no
reasonable
expectation
of
profit
and
therefore
the
expenses
are
not
deductible
in
the
years
in
question.
The
appellant
for
his
part
says
that
counsel
for
the
respondent
claims
that
he
only
started
the
business
in
1990
and
he
had
no
business
before
that.
His
position
was
that
he
did
not
start
in
1990.
He
just
started
to
do
things
differently
in
1990
but
he
was
in
business
before
that
and
he
intended
to
make
a
profit.
In
1990
he
decided
to
develop
a
better
plan,
more
personal
retail
sales,
more
volume,
more
profits.
Further,
he
reiterated,
there
is
no
capital
outlay
but
there
are
ongoing
expenses."
I
had
to
make
them,
they
were
reasonable
expenses
to
make
and
I
should
be
allowed
to
deduct
them."
That
would
normally
be<he
case.
If
they
are
reasonable
expenses
and
they
are
not
personal
expenses,
they
can
be
deductible.
But
before
you
get
to
that
point,
it
is
obvious
that
there
has
to
be
a
business
against
which
you
can
deduct
them,
as
I
have
already
outlined
in
referring
to
Moldowan,
supra.
The
appellant
says
that
in
1991
his
statements
show
that
he
had
a
business.
He
said
in
1987
and
1988
he
had
a
business.
All
you
have
to
do
is
look
at
Schedule
2
of
the
reply
to
the
notice
of
appeal
which
has
been
introduced
and
also
Exhibit
A-4
and
you
can
surely
see
that
he
had
a
business.
The
appellant
referred
to
the
cases
cited
and
said
they
do
not
really
mean
very
much,
they
are
not
relevant
here,
the
factual
situations
are
different.
In
his
business,
he
said,
you
are
always
in
the
building
stage.
You
cannot
look
at
it
from
one
point
in
time.
You
must
look
at
it
over
a
period
of
time.
The
appellant
did
reasonably
expect
a
profit.
When
you
look
at
the
letter
of
September
23,
1991,
from
the
Minister,
it
is
obvious
that
the
Minister
felt
that
things
were
getting
better
and
things
were
improving.
He
asks
that
the
appeal
be
allowed
and
that
he
be
allowed
to
deduct
the
expenses
against
income.
He
says
if
he
is
not
entitled
to
the
expenses,
then
he
will
have
to
go
back
and
consider
whether
he
stays
in
it,
he
may
have
to
go
back
to
work.
Those
are
the
facts
as
disclosed
by
the
viva
voce
evidence
and
also
by
the
documents
that
are
before
this
Court.
As
the
Court
indicated
at
the
outset,
the
only
issue
is
whether
or
not
in
the
years
in
question,
1987
and
1988,
there
was
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit.
In
making
that
decision
I
must
look
at
all
of
the
evidence,
the
documentary
evidence
and
the
viva
voce
evidence
and
draw
any
reasonable
inferences
which
the
Court
is
entitled
to
draw
from
those
facts.
It
is
necessary
to
look
at
the
whole
financial
picture,
that
is,
sales,
bonuses,
cost
of
sales
as
set
out
in
Schedule
1
and
Schedule
2
and
Exhibit
A-4,
they
all
must
be
considered.
Further,
it
is
necessary
to
take
into
account
the
letter
referred
to
from
the
Minister
which
indicated
that
things
were
getting
better,
take
into
account
the
evidence
given
by
the
appellant
regarding
what
he
was
attempting
to
do
to
make
things
better,
to
improve,
and
refer
to
Schedule
1
and
Schedule
2
in
the
reply
to
the
notice
of
appeal.
As
referred
to
in
Moldowan,
supra,
all
the
facts
must
be
looked
at
objectively.
What
we
must
do
is
look
at
the
years
in
question,
1987
and
1988,
and
decide
whether
or
not
there
was
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit
during
those
years.
We
must
use
all
the
information
that
is
before
us,
not
necessarily
only
to
look
at
1987
and
1988.
But
what
we
really
must
do
is
look
at
1987
and
1988
in
light
of
all
the
information
available
to
us
from
1982
to
1991,
which
is
really
what
we
have
before
us,
and
then
look
at
it
objectively
and
make
a
decision
as
to
whether
or
not
there
was
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit
in
the
years
in
question.
When
the
Court
does
that,
and
we
look
at
the
income
and
the
expenses
between
1982
and
1991,
there
were
continuous
losses
between
1983
and
1989.
Only
in
1990
and
1991
was
there
a
profit.
The
losses
vary
as
much
as
$3,000
and
$4,000,
the
highest
one
being
in
1985
where
there
is
a
$9,222
loss
and
in
1988
$8,100.
Then
they
go
down
to
a
low
of
$3,027
in
the
first
year.
Looking
at
that
alone,
one
would
say,
"How
can
there
be
any
reasonable
expectation
of
profit?"
Well,
that
is
not
the
end
of
the
issue
though.
We
then
ask:
What
does
the
appellant
say?
Can
he
explain
the
losses
between
1982
and
1989?
The
appellant
was
given
the
opportunity
to
explain
those
losses,
as
to
whether
or
not
there
were
any
extraordinary
events,
was
there
anything
such
as
start-up
costs,
extra
expenses,
calamities,
disasters,
which
would
account
for
the
apparent
lack
of
profit.
He
was
given
an
opportunity
to
explain
why
in
those
years
he
would
have
had
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit
or
why
the
Court
should
decide
he
had
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit
in
spite
of
those
losses.
Basically,
he
was
not
able
to
come
up
with
any
explanation
because
there
was
nothing
there
which
he
could
show.
There
were
losses
in
fact,
between
1983
and
1989
contrary
to
his
avowed
intention
that
there
was
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit.
There
was
clear
evidence
given,
that
in
1990
and
1991
there
was
a
complete
change
in
the
way
that
he
did
business.
The
changes
were
that
in
1990
and
1991,
in
which
years
he
showed
a
profit,
the
appellant
spent
more
time
on
his
enterprise
because
he
had
more
time,
he
recruited
better
people,
he
recruited
more
people,
he
knew
that
he
had
to
have
a
greater
network
if
he
was
going
to
make
more
bonuses
and
sell
more
product.
The
appellant
even
said
that
in
1990
and
1991
there
was
a
change
in
the
economy,
the
economic
outlook
changed
so
that
there
was
the
availability
of
a
greater
array
of
people
who
were
interested
in
doing
the
kind
of
thing
that
he
was
going
to
do
and
they
were
interested
in
making
money
and
could
help
him
make
money.
There
is
no
doubt
in
my
mind
that
there
was
an
overt
change
in
the
way
the
appellant
conducted
this
enterprise
in
1990
and
1991
and
the
conditions
existent
then
were
not
indications
of
those
existent
in
1987
and
1988.
The
Court
has
no
hesitation
in
coming
to
the
conclusion
that
there
was
no
reasonable
expectation
of
profit
from
a
business
in
1987
and
1988.
The
appellant
has
referred
to
some
of
the
cases
that
are
mentioned
by
the
respondent.
The
Court
need
not
refer
further
to
Moldowan,
supra,
because
it
is
clear
from
that
case
that
unless
there
is
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit
there
is
no
business
against
which
to
offset
your
income
and
therefore
the
deductions
are
not
allowable.
He
does
not
fit
within
Moldowan,
supra,
on
that
point.
Regarding
Craddock
v.
M.N.R.,
[1986]
1
C.T.C.
2006,
86
D.T.C.
1014
(T.C.C.),
it
is
true
that
the
factual
situation
is
not
similar
as
here,
but
it
was
cited
by
the
Crown
only
to
show
that
even
in
that
case
where
there
might
have
been
an
argument
about
start-up
costs,
in
this
case
at
bar
there
were
no
start-up
costs
and
the
appellant
cannot
even
rely
upon
that.
Consequently,
there
is
no
explanation
as
to
why
he
showed
a
loss
in
the
years
between
1983
and
1989.
Regarding
Chequer
v.
The
Queen,
[1988]
1
C.T.C.
257,
88
D.T.C.
6169
(F.C.T.D.),
again
the
factual
situation
is
not
the
same
as
here.
That
was
a
charter
business.
It
was
only
cited
by
the
Minister,
as
far
as
the
Court
is
concerned,
to
show
that
the
appellant
failed
to
objectively
show
that
there
was
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit.
That
is
the
same
duty
that
is
imposed
upon
the
appellant
here.
The
duty
of
the
appellant
is
to
satisfy
the
Court
on
the
balance
of
probabilities,
looking
at
it
objectively,
that
there
was
a
reasonable
expectation
of
profit
from
the
business.
In
that
case
he
was
unable
to
do
so
and
in
this
case
the
Court
is
satisfied
that
the
appellant
has
not
done
so.
Coupland
v.
The
Queen,
[1988]
1
C.T.C.
414,
88
D.T.C.
6252
(F.C.T.D.),
was
also
cited
by
the
Minister.
Again,
the
factual
situation
in
Coupland,
supra,
is
not
the
same.
This
was
a
business
that
was
attempted
to
be
operated
as
a
campground.
The
Court
again
found
that
there
was
no
reasonable
expectation
of
profit,
in
spite
of
the
fact
that
the
taxpayer
had
considerable
experience
to
run
a
campground,
but
the
evidence
showed
that
he
was
not
on
the
property
much
of
the
time,
there
was
no
evidence
of
any
concerted
advertising
campaign
to
create
enough
business
to
make
a
profit,
and
it
was
clear
the
enterprise
from
the
start
was
undercapitalized.
Capitalization
does
not
come
into
the
picture
in
the
appellant's
case
because
there
was
not
much
capital
required.
I
think
one
of
the
facts,
though,
was
that
in
the
beginning,
in
between
1983
and
1989,
the
appellant
did
not
spend
the
time
on
it
that
was
necessary.
It
is
quite
obvious
in
1990
and
1991,
when
he
did
spend
the
time
on
it,
that
he
turned
the
corner
and
showed
a
profit.
The
Court
dismisses
the
appeal
and
confirms
the
assessment
of
the
Minister.
Appeal
dismissed.