Mogan
J.T.C.C.:-These
are
two
motions
each
brought
by
the
respondent
for
an
order
requiring
the
appellant
to
reattend
at
his
own
expense
to
answer
certain
questions
which
he
failed
to
answer
on
his
examination
for
discovery.
The
motions
are
brought
in
the
appeals
of
J.
Arthur
Carson
v.
The
Queen,
93-1853,
and
T.
Geoffrey
Bertram
v.
The
Queen,
93-1855.
Messrs.
Carson
and
Bertram
are
two
members
of
a
large
group
who
bought
interests
in
a
joint
venture
around
1980
connected
with
an
apartment
development
called
"Lookout
Village"
someplace
in
the
Niagara
Peninsula.
They
and
approximately
eight
of
their
associates
in
that
investment
have
appeals
set
down
which,
I
understand,
will
be
heard
on
common
evidence
later
this
spring.
The
two
examinations
for
discovery
of
Carson
and
Bertram
were
conducted
in
anticipation
of
that
trial.
The
issues
in
the
two
appeals
are
identical.
Therefore,
I
propose
to
deal
with
the
Carson
motion
by
itself
and
what
I
say
in
relation
to
the
Carson
motion
will
apply
equally
to
the
Bertram
motion.
Apparently,
all
the
taxpayer
appellants
purchased
interests
in
a
syndicate
which
constructed
a
very
significant
apartment
building.
The
building
was
sold
five
or
six
years
after
the
syndicate
interests
were
purchased.
It
appears
there
was
a
gain
realized
upon
the
sale
of
the
building.
The
participants
recorded
the
transaction
as
a
capital
gain.
Sometime
around
1990,
approximately
four
years
after
the
sale
of
the
building,
Revenue
Canada
concluded
that
the
transaction
was
on
income
account
and
issued
reassessments
to
the
participants
treating
the
gain
on
sale
as
income
and
not
capital.
Therefore,
the
issue
in
the
appeal
will
be
a
familiar
one,
sometimes
referred
to
as
a
trading
case,
where
the
only
issue
is
whether
the
character
of
a
gain
realized
on
the
purchase
and
sale
of
certain
property
is
of
an
income
character
or
a
capital
character.
Before
the
last
reassessment
was
issued,
there
were
negotiations
between
Revenue
Canada
and
the
two
appellants
Carson
and
Bertram,
and
I
assume
other
members
of
the
syndicate.
Specifically,
Revenue
Canada
wrote
to
the
parties
what
Revenue
Canada
refers
to
as
a
"proposal
letter"
stating
that
they
proposed
to
add
as
income
to
the
reported
income
of
Carson
and
the
other
members
the
gain
realized
on
the
sale
of
the
building.
The
proposal
letter
is
a
common
mechanism
used
by
Revenue
Canada
to
inform
a
taxpayer
of
a
significant
adjustment,
usually
an
upward
adjustment,
to
his
income
in
order
to
give
the
taxpayer
an
opportunity
to
make
representations
to
Revenue
Canada
as
to
why
the
proposed
assessment
should
not
be
made.
In
this
case,
the
taxpayers
retained
a
prominent
law
firm.
A
lawyer
in
that
firm,
representing
two
or
more
of
the
syndicate
members,
arranged
for
a
meeting
which
I
understand
occurred
in
Ottawa
in
October
1991,
at
which
representations
were
made
with
a
view
to
settling
the
matter.
I
use
the
word
"settling"
in
a
broad
sense;
not
in
the
usual
sense
of
give-and-take
because
in
this
kind
of
proposed
assessment,
it
frequently
comes
down
to
an
all
or
nothing
situation
and
it
is
quite
common
for
taxpayers
and
their
representatives
to
try
and
persuade
Revenue
Canada
that
their
proposal
is
wrong
and
that
the
proposed
reassessment
should
simply
be
dropped
or
abandoned.
In
any
event,
the
object
of
the
meeting
was
to
avoid
litigation.
So,
in
that
sense,
I
would
refer
to
it
as
a
settlement
meeting.
It
was
attended
by
Mr.
Carson,
two
lawyers
from
the
law
firm
representing
many
members
of
the
syndicate
and
perhaps
other
persons,
I
am
not
sure.
The
meeting
was
not
successful
from
the
taxpayers’
point
of
view
because
they
did
not
persuade
the
Minister
to
withdraw
his
position.
Indeed,
the
Minister
persevered
in
his
original
proposal
and
issued
assessments
adding
to
the
income
of
the
appellants
and
their
associates
the
respective
gains
realized
on
the
sale
of
their
interests
in
the
syndicate.
In
the
examination
for
discovery
of
Carson,
there
were
many
questions
to
which
counsel
for
the
appellant
objected
and
advised
his
client
not
to
answer.
Mr.
Carson
followed
the
advice
and
so
we
have
a
whole
series
of
questions
itemized
in
the
notice
of
motion
to
which
the
respondent
seeks
answers.
Let
me
say
at
the
beginning
that
my
own
view
of
discoveries-and
I
think
it
is
reflected
in
the
jurisprudence-is
that
they
generally
should
be
broad
and
permissive
as
to
the
scope
and
subject
matter
of
the
discovery
and
if
the
discovery
proceeds
into
areas
which
either
may
not
be
relevant
or
may
be
objectionable
for
other
reasons,
there
is
an
opportunity
at
trial,
or
on
motion
to
the
trial
judge
before
the
trial
commences,
to
determine
what
parts
of
a
discovery
may
be
excluded.
Therefore,
my
inclination
is
to
be
permissive
in
respect
of
the
scope
to
which
a
party
may
be
examined
on
discovery.
In
response
to
the
argument
put
forward
by
counsel
for
the
respondent,
counsel
for
the
appellants
grouped
the
unanswered
questions
into
two
general
groups.
She
had
four
questions
which
she
said
were
clearly
not
related
to
the
investigation
conducted
by
Revenue
Canada
prior
to
the
assessment;
and
then
she
said
that
all
the
other
questions
she
was
prepared
to
treat
as
being
related
to
the
investigation
by
Revenue
Canada.
Because
the
four
were
so
easily
identified,
we
dealt
with
them
first
and,
indeed,
I
made
my
determination
on
those
questions
in
the
course
of
listening
to
counsel
for
the
appellants
as
follows:
On
the
examination
of
Carson,
questions
212
and
290
are
to
be
answered
as
put.
Question
218
is
an
appropriate
question
but
not
adequately
precise.
If
the
respondent
wants
to
put
that
question,
the
respondent
will
have
to
put
it
in
a
more
precise
fashion.
On
the
examination
of
Bertram,
Ms.
Michaelson
stated
that
the
appellants
were
content
that
question
456
was
a
proper
question
and
should
be
answered.
That
disposes
of
the
four
questions
which
do
not
relate
to
the
investigation
by
Revenue
Canada.
All
the
other
questions,
in
the
view
of
the
appellants,
relate
to
the
investigation
by
Revenue
Canada,
being
the
accumulation
of
information
by
Revenue
Canada
prior
to
the
issuing
of
the
reassessments
under
appeal.
In
particular,
as
I
understand
the
position
of
the
appellants,
all
of
the
remaining
questions
really
relate
to
this
meeting
that
was
held
in
Ottawa
on
October
9,
1991.
In
a
nutshell,
as
I
understand
the
argument
for
the
appellants,
they
take
the
position
that,
under
the
decision
of
the
Exchequer
Court
in
a
famous
judgment
by
Mr.
Justice
Noël
in
Racine,
Demers
and
Nolin
v.
M.N.R.,
[1965]
C.T.C.
150,
65
D.T.C.
5098
(Ex.
Ct.),
it
is
the
circumstances
surrounding
the
transaction
from
which
the
inferences
will
be
drawn
to
determine
whether
it
was
trading
or
not.
Therefore,
it
is
what
was
in
the
minds
of
these
people
around
1980
or
1981
when
they
purchased
their
interests
in
the
syndicate
that
will
determine
whether
they
had
an
investment
intent
or
a
trading
intent;
and
whatever
happened
in
the
meeting
with
Revenue
Canada
on
October
9,
1991
is
not
relevant
to
the
determination
of
what
their
intention
was
at
the
time
they
entered
into
the
transaction.
Secondly,
even
if
those
questions
do
relate
to
intent,
the
appellant
objects
to
certain
of
them
because
counsel
for
the
appellant
at
the
discovery
took
the
position
that
the
questions
were
intended
to
test
the
credibility
of
the
taxpayer
being
examined
and,
as
such,
it
was
an
improper
question.
On
the
motion
today,
counsel
for
the
appellants
referred
me
to
the
Rules
of
this
Court
and,
in
particular,
Rule
95(1)
as
it
relates
to
the
scope
of
examination
for
discovery.
That
Rule
provides:
95.(1)
A
person
examined
for
discovery
shall
answer,
to
the
best
of
that
person’s
knowledge,
information
and
belief,
any
proper
question
relating
to
any
matter
in
issue
in
the
proceeding
or
to
any
matter
made
discoverable
by
subsection
(3)
and
no
question
may
be
objected
to
on
the
ground
that....
and
there
are
three
grounds,
(a),
(b)
or
(c),
which
are
specifically
identified
as
not
being
grounds
for
objection.
The
only
one
of
relevance
here
is
(b):
(b)
the
question
constitutes
cross-examination,
unless
the
question
is
directed
solely
to
the
credibility
of
the
witness.
Now,
to
apply
that
Rule
to
the
questions
in
issue
requires
a
little
more
explanation
of
what
this
case
seems
to
be
about.
Apparently,
there
was
a
brochure
or
a
sales
circular
of
some
kind
published
or
produced
by
the
developer
and
the
promoter
of
the
syndicate
who
was
selling
units
in
the
syndicate.
I
was
referred
to
copies
of
that
brochure
as
exhibits
to
the
affidavit
of
John
Shipley
which
was
filed
in
support
of
the
respondent’s
motion.
I
will
call
it
a
sales
brochure.
It
is
about
12
pages
long
and
contains
the
usual
kind
of
information
one
would
expect:
a
description
of
the
proposed
building,
its
location,
its
units,
the
market,
whether
it
is
rentable,
and
that
kind
of
thing.
Apparently,
at
some
point
in
the
negotiations
with
Revenue
Canada,
they
were
given
two
or
more
copies
of
this
sales
brochure
and,
accepting
the
word
of
counsel
for
the
appellants
at
the
hearing
today,
it
appears
there
are
now
a
number
of
different
versions
of
the
sales
brochure.
In
particular,
one
apparently
had
an
index
showing
that
there
was
a
part
ten
or
part
nine
to
the
brochure
and,
at
some
other
time,
a
copy
of
the
brochure
was
presented
to
an
official
of
Revenue
Canada
in
which
the
index
was
removed
and
part
nine
or
part
ten
was
removed.
Apparently,
the
parts
removed
refer
to
the
possibility
of
a
resale
of
the
property.
There
was
an
implication
in
the
argument
put
forward
to
me
and
in
the
affidavit
supporting
the
motion
that
Revenue
Canada
has
two
or
more
of
these
brochures
and
suspects
that
either
there
was
only
one
brochure
and
it
has
been
tampered
with,
or
there
were
a
number
of
different
brochures.
That
position
was
not
made
clear.
Most
of
the
questions
objected
to
relate
to
questions
asked
by
counsel
for
the
respondent
on
one
or
more
of
these
brochures
and
whether
either
Carson
or
Bertram
had
knowledge
of
the
brochures;
when
they
came
into
their
possession;
whether,
in
Carson’s
case,
he
had
it
at
the
meeting
or
whether
it
was
later
delivered
to
Revenue
Canada;
whether
they
saw
them
at
the
time
they
invested
in
the
syndicate
or
whether
one
of
them
got
it
from
the
other
sometime
in
the
1990s,
long
after
the
units
were
disposed
of
and
when
Revenue
Canada
was
thinking
of
reassessing.
These
questions
generally
were
objected
to
on
the
basis
that
they
were
not
relevant
because
they
do
not
relate
to
what
was
in
the
mind
of
the
appellant
at
the
time
he
decided
to
purchase
the
property.
Also,
if
they
are
relevant
for
that
purpose,
they
fail
to
be
excluded
under
Rule
95(1
)(b)
because
they
are
directed
solely
to
the
credibility
of
the
witness.
I
gather
that
relates
to
the
question
of
whether
one
or
more
of
these
sales
brochures
has
been
tampered
with
or
had
one
or
more
pages
removed.
I
have
concluded
that
all
of
these
questions
should
be
answered
and
that
the
appellants
should
reattend,
in
the
terms
of
the
respondent’s
notice
of
motion,
at
their
own
expense
to
answer
the
questions.
My
reasons
are
as
follows:
Generally,
the
scope
of
a
discovery
is
to
be
broad.
Counsel
for
the
respondent
provided
me
with
authorities
showing
the
purpose
of
discovery,
from
Williston
and
Rolls,
being
to
enable
the
examining
party
to
know
the
case
he
has
to
meet;
to
enable
him
to
procure
admissions
which
will
dispense
with
other
formal
proof
of
his
case;
or
to
procure
admissions
which
will
destroy
his
opponent’s
case.
The
acknowledgement
by
both
parties
that
there
are
a
number
of
different
versions
of
the
sales
brochure
in
existence,
in
my
view,
is
telling
in
favour
of
the
respondent
because
the
respondent
is
certainly
entitled
to
ask,
if
there
is
more
than
one
brochure,
which
one
any
appellant
had
in
his
possession,
if
an
appellant
ever
had
any
one
in
his
possession,
or
if
he
had
two
or
more
in
his
possession.
With
regard
to
the
meeting
on
October
9,
I
would
also
hold
that
the
respondent
is
entitled
to
ask
what
any
one
of
the
appellants
brought
to
that
meeting;
if
Carson
or
one
of
the
others
came,
if
they
delivered
a
brochure.
The
question
is
not
only
to
go
against
their
credibility,
if
one
of
the
brochures
has
been
tampered
with.
It
goes
just
as
much
to
what
they
knew
at
what
point
in
time.
Did
they
have
the
brochure
when
the
transaction
took
place,
when
they
initially
invested
in
the
syndicate?
If
they
did
have
it,
did
they
rely
on
it?
If
they
did
not,
why
did
they
not
have
it
if
the
sales
brochure
was
being
used?
If
they
came
into
possession
of
it
only
at
the
time
of
the
meeting
and
one
of
them
brought
it
to
the
meeting,
was
it
delivered
to
Revenue
Canada
at
that
time?
I
cannot
think
that
the
questions
are
directed
solely
to
the
credibility
of
the
witness,
although
there
may
be
a
fallout
from
some
of
the
answers
if
it
turns
out
that
a
taxpayer
has
brought
to
the
meeting
a
brochure
that
has
been
tampered
with.
The
sales
brochures
are
so
relevant
to
the
formation
of
intent
to
purchase,
I
would
think
that
the
respondent
is
entitled
to
ask
just
about
any
question
related
to
those
brochures,
whether
they
were
being
used
by
the
taxpayer
in
1980
or
whether
they
were
brought
to
the
meeting
in
October
1991
which
was,
by
admission
of
all
the
parties,
intended
to
avoid
litigation
if
possible.
The
appellants
rely
strongly
on
the
affidavit
of
Terrance
Young,
a
lawyer
with
Fraser
&
Beatty,
the
solicitors
for
the
appellants,
who
was
representing
many
members
of
the
syndicate
back
in
1991.
He
was
instrumental
in
setting
up
the
meeting
in
Ottawa.
He
attended
the
meeting
along
with
Mr.
Carson
and
one
of
the
other
members
of
the
syndicate
and
another
lawyer
from
Fraser
&
Beatty.
He
states
that
the
purpose
of
requesting
and
attending
at
the
meeting
in
October
1991
was
solely
to
attempt
to
achieve
a
settlement
of
the
issues
in
dispute
between
the
respondent
and
the
group
of
14
former
members
of
Lookout
Village.
This
is
confirmed
in
paragraph
nine
of
the
affidavit
of
John
Shipley
filed
in
support
of
the
respondent’s
notice
of
motion.
So
there
is
no
question
that
the
purpose
of
the
meeting
was
to
effect
a
settlement.
In
Mr.
Young’s
affidavit,
he
goes
on
to
state
in
paragraph
six,
and
I
quote
the
last
sentence:
The
meeting
was
attended
on
the
basis
that
all
representations
made
would
be
without
prejudice.
He
does
not
offer
any
contemporaneous
document
to
support
the
proposition
that
the
meeting
was
without
prejudice.
There
is
no
letter
from
him
prior
to
the
meeting
stating
that
it
would
be
without
prejudice,
nor
is
there
a
letter
from
him
immediately
after
the
meeting
reminding
all
those
in
attendance
that
it
was
without
prejudice.
Apparently,
the
two
lawyers
from
Fraser
&
Beatty
were
the
only
lawyers
in
attendance
with
some
of
their
clients.
They
met
with
senior
officials
of
Revenue
Canada
who
apparently
were
without
counsel.
Therefore,
if
the
meeting
was
to
be
without
prejudice,
I
should
think
there
was
a
special
duty
on
Mr.
Young
and
his
colleague
from
Fraser
&
Beatty
to
make
that
clear
because
they
were
the
only
lawyers
in
attendance.
Admitting
that
the
purpose
of
the
meeting
was
to
effect
some
kind
of
settlement
to
avoid
litigation,
and
even
if
I
were
to
accept
the
fact
that
the
meeting
was
without
prejudice,
it
does
not
necessarily
indicate,
to
me,
that
everything
which
happened
at
the
meeting
was
without
prejudice.
Certainly,
any
offer
or
concession
or
admission
made
by
the
appellants
which
might
prejudice
them
at
trial
as,
for
example,
an
offer
to
pay
tax
on
half
the
gain,
would
be
an
offer
which
prejudiced
them
which
could
be
regarded
as
falling
within
the
concept
of
’’without
prejudice"
when
two
parties
meet
to
see
if
they
can
settle
litigation.
But,
as
I
understand
the
position
of
the
respondent,
the
respondent
is
not
trying
to
pursue
any
statement,
concession,
admission
or
offer
that
may
have
been
made
by
one
or
more
of
the
appellants
at
that
meeting
in
Ottawa
in
October
1991.
Quite
the
contrary,
it
seems
that
Revenue
Canada
is
trying
to
pursue
the
role
that
was
played
by
these
brochures
in
the
minds
of
the
appellants
and,
if
there
are
two
or
more
versions
of
the
brochures,
where
they
came
from
and
who
had
what
version
at
what
point
in
time.
If
it
should
turn
out
that
one
of
the
brochures
was
changed
by
removing
certain
pages,
that
may
go
to
the
credibility
of
any
appellant
if
it
can
be
established
that
a
particular
appellant
changed
one
of
the
brochures
by
removing
the
pages.
But
the
brochures
in
themselves
are
so
fundamental
to
the
formation
of
intent
that,
as
I
stated
earlier,
it
seems
to
me
that
the
Minister
can
ask
just
about
any
question
relating
to
those
brochures
and
it
would
be
sustainable
on
the
basis
that
it
was
primarily
relevant
and
not
directed
solely
to
the
credibility
of
any
one
of
the
appellants.
If
credibility
becomes
relevant
out
of
the
Minister’s
questions,
it
is
a
fallout
to
the
function
of
the
brochures
in
themselves.
Motion
granted.