Assistant
Chairman:—The
appellant
in
this
appeal
took
advantage
of
subsection
165(3)
of
the
Income
Tax
Act,
RSC
1952,
c
148
as
amended
by
SC
1970-71-72,
c
63,
with
the
consent
of
the
respondent.
Counsel
for
the
appellant
had
many
discussions
with
the
local
officer
of
the
respondent
in
Vancouver,
wrote
several
letters
to
the
head
office
of
the
respondent
in
Ottawa,
as
well
as
interviewing
and
discussing
the
matter
personally
with
officers
of
the
respondent.
It
would
appear
from
the
submissions
by
counsel
that,
if
I
were
to
say
that
he
begged
the
respondent
to
take
a
firm
position
or
a
decision,
I
might
be
understating
what
transpired
before
an
assessment
was
issued.
Once
the
assessment
was
issued,
the
appellant
asked
that
its
objection,
in
effect,
be
considered
a
notice
of
appeal
to
this
Board.
The
Minister
agreed
and
the
notice
of
objection
dated
May
29,
1978,
which
objected
to
the
assessment
of
May
12,
1978,
was
heard
as
an
appeal
to
this
Board
on
October
20,
1978.
Unfortunately,
because
it
was
felt
that
a
transcript
of
the
proceedings
was
necessary
to
appreciate
the
full
position
of
the
appellant
before
a
decision
could
be
rendered,
since
the
transcript
was
only
recently
received,
the
decision
of
this
Board
has
been
delayed
to
this
date.
The
assessment
appealed
from
is
not
an
assessment
of
tax
based
on
the
appellant’s
income.
It
is
a
penalty
assessment.
The
respondent
assumed
that
the
appellant
paid
interest
to
non-residents
and
did
not
deduct
the
amount
of
tax
which
the
respondent
believed
it
was
required
to
deduct
pursuant
to
subsection
212(1)
of
the
said
Act.
The
appellant,
in
effect,
said
it
did
and
hence
the
appeal.
While
there
was
not
literally
an
agreement
as
to
facts
in
this
case,
there
really
was
no
dispute
as
to
the
facts.
The
appellant
is
a
public
company
and
it
acts
as
the
financial
core
of
the
many
other
companies
in
which
it
owns
shares.
It
has
subsidiaries
in
ten
or
fifteen
countries
all
over
the
world,
with
many
in
the
United
States.
The
appellant
had,
at
the
end
of
its
1977
year,
funded
debt
of
about
$247,000,000
in
the
form
of
debentures,
one
of
which
was
“series
C
debentures”.
The
appellant
had
a
“Principal
Trust
Debenture”
which,
in
effect,
does
two
things:
(a)
it
sets
forth
the
agreement
pursuant
to
which
the
appellant
issued
its
funded
debt
in
series,
and
(b)
it
is
the
vehicle
through
which
the
bonds
were
created
and
sold.
The
terms
on
the
bond
in
question
in
this
appeal
are
the
same
as
those
shown
in
the
principal
trust
debenture.
However
the
rate
of
interest
and
amount
of
the
issue
are
covered
in
a
supplementary
trust
debenture.
According
to
the
principal
trust
debenture,
the
registered
holder—as
stated
by
the
witness
for
the
appellant—is
entitled
to
the
principal,
interest
and
premium
and
he
is
the
person
with
whom
the
company
must
deal.
Counsel
for
the
appellant,
through
his
witness,
the
secretary
of
the
appellant,
referred
to
section
233
of
the
British
Columbia
Companies
Act,
SBC
1973,
c
18
as
amended,
with
respect
to
the
Minister
(BC)
ordering
an
inquiry
to
determine
the
beneficial
ownership
of
shares.
It
was
suggested
that,
since
the
Minister
(BC)
could
make
such
an
inquiry,
there
was
no
power
in
the
company
itself
to
do
so.
The
appellant’s
witness
stated
that,
in
connection
with
the
“series
C
debentures”,
all
of
the
holders
are
resident
or
apparent
residents
of
the
United
States.
Until
February
1976,
considering
section
212
of
the
Income
Tax
Act
after
tax
reform
and
Article
XI
of
the
Canada-US
Tax
Convention,
the
appellant
deducted
the
tax
required
of
15%
from
the
interest
being
paid
and
remitted
it
as
required
to
the
Government
of
Canada.
The
appellant
then
sent
a
cheque
for
the
balance
to
the
US
trustee
(First
National
City
Bank)
and
they
disbursed
it
according
to
the
register
which
they
keep.
The
appellant
made
no
“inquiry
as
to
the
beneficial
ownership
of
any
series
‘C’
debenture
which
might
lie
behind
the
registered
holder
thereof.”
The
appellant’s
witness
stated
that
he
would
estimate
that
about
thirty-eight
percentum
of
the
series
“C”
debentures
were
held
by
apparent
nominees.
Around
February
1976,
it
came
to
the
attention
of
officers
of
the
appellant,
through
a
press
release
from
the
Department
of
National
Revenue
(Taxation),
that
the
appellant
(as
well
as
others
in
a
similar
position)
were
expected
or
even
required
to
find
out
who
the
beneficial
owners
of
its
securities
were.
The
effect
in
reality
was
that
tax
at
the
rate
of
25%
was
to
be
deducted
from
the
payment
of
interest
by
the
payer
if
the
payee
were
a
nominee
or
agent
unless
the
payee
or
nominee
indicated
that
the
beneficial
owner
of
the
interest
being
paid
was
a
resident
of
a
country
which
had
a
tax
treaty
with
Canada.
The
press
release
was
followed
by
an
Information
Circular
#76-12,
which
was
in
great
detail.
While
the
Information
Circular
does
not
determine
the
tax
liability
of
the
appellant,
it
has
been
referred
to
in
order
to
indicate
the
position
in
which
the
appellant
found
itself.
The
circular
states
in
effect
that
those
rules
apply
from
January
1,
1976.
While
an
effort
was
made
by
the
American
trustee
of
the
appellant’s
Trust
Debenture
to
get
the
beneficial
owners
of
those
debentures
to
fill
out
the
required
certificate,
a
good
many
did
not
comply.
Correspondence
passed
between
counsel
for
the
appellant
and
officers
of
the
Department
of
National
Revenue,
Taxation.
This
correspondence
started
in
November
1976
by
a
letter
to
National
Revenue.
It,
in
substance,
stated
that
there
were
among
the
registered
holders,
names
which
would
appear
to
be
nominees
but
were
not
known
by
the
appellant
to
be
such
nominees
and
the
letter
continued
that
the
appellant
refused
to
make
any
inquiry
as
to
the
beneficial
ownership
which
might
lie
behind
the
apparent
nominees.
The
letter
then
stated:
I
would
be
obliged
if
you
would
forthwith
assess
MacMillan
Bloedel
Limited
for
the
amount
of
the
10%
difference
pursuant
to
sections
215
and
227(10)
of
the
Income
Tax
Act
so
that
I
can
file
a
notice
of
objection
thereto.
National
Revenue
later
wrote
to
the
appellant
asking
for
the
certificates
as
to
the
beneficial
ownership.
The
appellant
replied
as
follows:
In
this
letter
of
November
10,
1976
to
Mr
A
W
Crawford
of
the
Vancouver
District
Office,
a
copy
of
which
you
have,
Mr
P
N
Thorsteinsson
stated
that
it
was
our
intention
not
to
fulfil
the
requirements
of
Information
Circular
76-12
in
these
three
cases
in
order
to
precipitate
an
assessment.
Would
you
kindly
issue
one
as
soon
as
possible.
National
Revenue,
by
letter
of
May
19,
1977,
wrote
to
counsel
for
the
appellant
as
follows:
This
is
in
reference
to
your
letter
of
November
23,
1976
and
is
further
to
ours
of
December
2,
1976.
Serious
consideration
has
been
given
to
your
request.
It
now
appears
from
our
findings,
that
the
correct
amount
of
tax
under
Part
XIII
has
been
withheld
and
remitted
on
behalf
of
the
relevant
non-residents.
We
are
satisfied
therefore
that
an
assessment
is
not
required
under
the
circumstances.
We
thank
you
for
taking
the
trouble
to
express
your
views
on
Information
Circular
76-12.
Counsel
for
the
appellant
wrote
to
the
respondent
by
letter
of
June
1,
1977,
to
ensure
that
there
was
a
consensus
ad
idem
as
to
the
resolution
of
the
problem:
Thank
you
for
your
letter
of
May
19.
I
am
glad
to
see
that
you
have
concluded
that
the
correct
amount
of
withholding
tax
was
withheld
in
the
three
cases
specified
in
my
letter
of
November
10
to
Mr
Crawford
of
the
Vancouver
District
Office.
MacMillan
Bloedel
Ltd
will
now,
on
the
basis
of
your
letter
of
May
19,
commence
withholding
at
the
rate
of
15%
on
all
future
interest
and
dividend
payments
made
to
registered
holders
of
its
securities
whose
addresses
are
shown
to
be
in
the
United
States,
without
complying
with
the
purported
requirements
set
forth
in
Information
Circular
76-12
with
respect
to
ascertainment
of
the
identity
of
the
beneficial
owner
of
a
security
who
may
lie
behind
a
nominee
registered
owner.
As
you
will
appreciate,
the
company
takes
the
position
that
those
purported
requirements
are
not
authorized
by
any
provision
in
the
Income
Tax
Act
or
any
regulation
validly
made.
I
should
be
pleased
to
receive
your
confirmation
that
withholding
at
the
rate
of
15%
with
respect
to
American
registered
owners
of
the
company’s
securities
constitutes
compliance
with
the
requirements
of
the
Act.
That
letter
was
replied
to
by
letter
dated
June
9,
1977,
as
follows:
Thank
you
for
your
letter
of
June
1,
1977
informing
the
Department
that
the
company
takes
the
position
that
the
purported
requirements
are
not
authorized
by
any
provision
in
the
Income
Tax
Act
or
any
regulation
validly
made.
May
we
mention
that
in
developing
the
procedure
in
Information
Circular
76-12
we
asked
for
and
received
input
from
several
sources
in
the
financial
community.
We
tried
to
adopt
as
many
of
the
recommendations
as
possible
while
still
ensuring
that
our
revenue
collection
responsibilities
under
the
Act
were
properly
carried
Out.
If
an
agent
or
nominee
is
acting
in
good
faith
there
should
be
no
hesitation
on
his
part
to
sign
a
certification
in
order
to
have
the
treaty
rate
of
tax
applied
by
the
Canadian
payor.
The
alternative
of
course
is
to
have
the
statutory
rate
apply
and
have
the
agent
or
nominee
provide
the
necessary
evidence
to
the
Department
when
applying
for
a
refund.
The
Circular
has
been
in
operation
for
almost
a
year,
and
except
for
the
odd
request
for
facilitating
the
segregation
of
accounts,
the
Department
has
received
continued
cooperation
in
implementing
the
guidelines.
We
regret
to
advise
that
we
cannot
accept
that
the
rate
of
15%
be
used
with
respect
to
American
registered
owners
of
the
company’s
securities
unless
the
suggested
guidelines
in
our
Information
Circular
76-12
are
followed
in
order
to
determine
those
entitled
to
this
rate.
At
this
stage
counsel
was
of
the
view
that
he
should
write
a
full
letter
to
Mr
Garland,
an
Assistant
Deputy
Minister
(Revenue
Canada,
Taxation),
and
by
letter
of
June
21,
1977,
he
wrote
as
follows:
I
write
to
bring
to
your
attention
a
rather
remarkable
dialogue
I
have
had
with
officials
of
your
Source
Deductions
Division,
Non-Resident
Tax
Section
over
the
past
several
months,
and
to
request
a
meeting
with
you
so
that
the
problem
my
client
faces
can
be
resolved.
Information
Circular
76-12
purports
to
impose
upon
a
Canadian
payer
of
interest
or
dividends
to
non-residents
the
obligation
to
ascertain
the
true
residence
of
the
beneficial
owner
of
bonds
or
shares
where
the
registered
owner
appears
to
be
a
nominee
for
another
person.
The
circular
purports
to
require
in
certain
cases
where
the
registered
owner
appears
to
be
a
nominee,
that
tax
be
withheld
at
the
rates
prescribed
by
Part
XIII,
and
the
onus
is
imposed
upon
the
payer
of
interest
or
dividends
to
ascertain
entitlement
of
the
beneficial
owner
to
the
lesser
rate
prescribed
by
treaty.
My
client
and
I
are
of
the
view
that
that
requirement
is
not
validly
imposed
by
Information
Circular
upon
my
client
as
a
Canadian
payer
of
interest
and
dividends
to
non-residents
in
the
absence
of
statutory
authority
or
even
a
regulation
validly
made
to
that
effect.
It
is
not
my
purpose
to
debate
the
merits
of
that
question
with
you
or
any
further
with
the
Department:
I
write
because
I
have
repeatedly
requested
an
assessment,
in
circumstances
that
will
become
clear
from
a
perusal
of
the
enclosed
correspondence,
so
that
the
question
whether
this
kind
of
requirement
can
be
imposed
on
Canadian
taxpayers
by
Information
Circular
can
be
appealed
and
contested
in
the
courts.
My
purpose
in
writing
to
you
is
that
all
of
my
efforts
so
far
to
precipitate
a
simple
assessment
to
that
end
have
failed,
and
the
course
of
the
discussions
and
correspondence
I
have
had
with
the
officials
of
your
Department
lead
me
to
the
conclusion
that
they
are
determined
to
avoid
or
delay
issuing
such
an
assessment
if
at
all
possible.
As
you
will
see
from
my
letter
of
November
10,
1976
to
Mr
Crawford
of
the
Vancouver
District
Office,
I
identified
three
cases
of
apparent
nominees
to
which
MacMillan
Bloedel
Limited
paid
interest
in
1976
in
respect
of
which
the
company
did
not,
and
does
not
propose
to,
comply
with
Information
Circular
76-12.
That
letter
requested
that
an
assessment
be
issued
forthwith
in
effect
to
test
the
validity
of
the
requirements
of
the
Information
Circular.
The
first
reaction
to
my
letter
to
Mr
Crawford
was
an
oral
response
from
him
to
the
effect
that
he
had
been
in
touch
with
his
superiors
in
Ottawa
who
had
indicated
that
it
might
not
be
appropriate
to
issue
an
assessment
before
the
end
of
the
then
current
calendar
year
arrived
and
turned
up
a
true
deficiency
on
withholding
tax
account.
Whatever
may
be
thought
of
the
merits
of
that
suggestion,
the
end
of
the
calendar
year
is
now
long
past.
I
subsequently
met
with
Mr
Padulo
in
Ottawa
and
in
the
course
of
that
meeting
I
explained
to
him
I
was
not
there
to
argue
with
him
the
merits
of
the
position
my
client
and
I
take,
but
simply
to
ask
why
we
could
not
have
an
assessment
of
the
three
‘test
cases’
put
forward
in
my
earlier
letter
of
November
10
to
Mr
Crawford.
Matters
were
left
on
the
basis
that
Mr
Padulo
would
take
the
question
up
with
his
superiors
and
let
me
know.
I
stressed
on
that
occasion
the
earnest
desire
of
my
client
to
have
an
early
resolution
of
the
question,
one
way
or
the
other—the
reason
being,
as
you
will
appreciate,
that
this
is
an
ongoing
problem
and
my
client
is
making
interest
and
dividend
payments
in
substantial
amounts
at
frequent
intervals.
Mr
Padulo
wrote
me
on
December
2
to
say
that
the
matter
was
being
considered.
I
received
a
further
letter
from
Mr
Padulo
dated
January
13
in
which
he
indicated
that
the
matter
had
been
referred
back
to
the
Vancouver
District
Office.
On
January
19
I
heard
from
Mr
Crawford
in
the
Vancouver
District
Office
to
the
effect
that
he
would
send
an
auditor
up
to
the
offices
of
MacMillan
Bloedel
Limited
in
the
next
day
or
so.
I
may
be
wrong,
but
I
took
that
to
mean
the
assessor
was
going
to
check
the
records
of
the
company
with
a
view
to
raising
the
assessment
that
I
had
been
requesting.
The
next
event
was
a
phone
message
received
by
my
secretary
from
someone
in
the
Department
to
the
effect
that
the
assessments
on
interest
would
be
$802.36
and
on
dividends
$346.50,
subject
to
the
approval
of
Ottawa.
I
took
that
to
mean
that,
subject
to
the
approval
of
Ottawa,
assessments
were
in
the
process
of
being
made
up.
On
April
21
Mr
Jozwiak,
who
works
in
Mr
Padulo’s
section,
wrote
a
letter
to
Mr
Grayhurst
of
MacMillan
Bloedel
Limited
making
a
formal
enquiry
the
nature
of
which,
in
light
of
my
letter
of
November
10
to
Mr
Crawford,
(a
copy
of
which
had
earlier
been
sent
by
him
to
Ottawa),
I
thought
to
be
entirely
idle,
so
I
phoned
Mr
Jozwiak
who
acknowledged
that
he
had
seen
my
letter
of
November
10
to
Mr
Crawford,
but
indicated
that
it
was
desired
to
get
word
to
the
same
effect
directly
from
the
company.
Faced
with
that,
I
had
Mr
Grayhurst
write
his
letter
of
April
26
to
Mr
Jozwiak.
On
May
7
my
partners,
M
J
O’Keefe,
met
with
Mr
Padulo
and
possibly
also
Mr
Jozwiak.
On
that
occasion
he
reiterated
the
concern
my
client
feels
with
the
delay
in
issuance
of
the
assessment
that
had
been
requested
and
once
again
Mr
Padulo
undertook
to
take
the
matter
up
with
his
superiors.
In
due
course
I
received
a
letter
dated
May
19
from
Mr
Thibault,
a
copy
of
which
is
enclosed.
I
took
that
letter
to
mean
that
the
Department
had
perhaps
decided
not
to
insist
on
compliance
with
the
Information
Circular,
and
accordingly
I
responded
to
it
by
my
letter
of
June
1
to
Mr
Thibault.
To
that
I
received
his
reply
dated
June
9,
the
first
page
of
which
apart
from
the
first
paragraph
is,
with
respect,
quite
irrelevant
to
the
question,
and
the
last
paragraph
of
which
appears
to
me
to
be
in
contradiction
of
his
earlier
letter
of
May
19.
Once
again,
I
am
not
writing
to
you
to
debate
the
question
at
issue:
all
I
want
is
an
assessment.
I
cannot
understand
the
apparent
reluctance
of
the
Department
to
issue
one
so
that
the
question
that
troubles
my
client
can
be
tested
in
the
courts.
I
have
one
or
two
other
matters
on
which
I
have
to
come
to
Ottawa
..
.
Mr
Garland
replied
by
letter
of
July
5,
1977,
which
in
part
reads
as
follows:
I
understand
that
you
feel
that
there
is
no
basis
in
law
for
the
requirements
set
out
in
Information
Circular
76-12.
Further
I
understand
you
are
anxious
that
a
test
case
be
provided
so
that
the
matter
may
be
taken
to
appeal.
As
you
may
be
aware
the
Department
of
Justice
have
provided
the
Department
with
an
opinion
which
supports
the
requirements
of
Information
Circular
76-12
with
respect
to
the
certification
procedure.
Admittedly
this
particular
requirement
has
not
been
contested
in
the
courts
but
on
the
basis
of
the
opinion
which
we
have
received
from
the
Department
of
Justice
we
feel
that
policy
of
the
department
is
sound
and
ought
not
to
be
changed.
With
respect
to
the
particular
case
at
issue
I
am
advised
that
your
client
MacMillan
Bloedel
Ltd
normally
comply
with
the
certification
provisions
of
Information
Circular
76-12
but
that
certification
was
not
obtained
in
respect
of
interest
payments
made
to
three
US
nominees
and
withholding
at
the
rate
of
15%
was
made
from
such
interest
payments
during
1976.
I
appreciate
that
the
lack
of
certification
was
designed
to
provide
a
basis
for
an
assessment
against
the
Canadian
payor.
Subsequent
investigation
indicated
that
the
beneficial
owners
of
the
interest
in
question
were,
in
fact,
residents
of
the
US.
In
these
circumstances
officials
of
the
department
declined
to
raise
an
assessment
for
the
excess
withholding
of
10%.
I
am
in
agreement
with
the
decision
not
to
assess
since
to
do
so
in
light
of
the
knowledge
that
the
beneficial
owners
were
residents
of
the
US
would
contravene
Article
XI
of
the
Canada-US
Convention.
Information
Circular
76-12
was
adopted
for
public
distribution
in
1976
following
consultation
with
the
Department
of
Justice,
the
Investment
Dealers
Association,
the
Canadian
Bankers
Association
and
some
major
Canadian
corporations.
I
would
not
suggest
that
it
was
sanctioned
by
all
of
those
consulted
but
it
has
been
generally
accepted
as
the
best
of
the
options
available.
If
a
reduced
withholding
were
based
solely
on
the
mailing
address
of
the
recipient
the
way
would
be
open
for
any
non-resident
to
direct
a
Canadian
payor
to
make
payments
of
amounts
described
in
Section
212
of
the
Act
to
an
address
in
a
tax
treaty
country.
Such
a
procedure
would
be
clearly
unacceptable.
In
the
circumstances
I
see
no
point
in
arranging
a
meeting
to
discuss
this
matter.
I
do,
however,
solicit
your
co-operation
and
that
of
your
clients
in
the
administration
of
the
law
in
these
troublesome
circumstances.
Following
receipt
of
this
letter,
counsel
wrote
on
September
8,
1977,
to
an
officer
in
the
Vancouver
district
office
of
National
Revenue
as
follows:
Further
to
my
letter
of
November
10,1976
and
our
numerous
subsequent
conversations,
as
you
know
I
took
up
the
matter
referred
to
in
my
said
letter
with
the
appropriate
persons
in
the
head
office
of
your
Department
in
Ottawa.
Eventually
I
discussed
the
matter
with
the
Assistant
Deputy
Minister
of
the
Operations
Branch
and
I
have
from
him
a
letter
dated
July
5,
1977
in
which
he
states
in
part
that
subsequent
investigation
by
the
Department
indicated
that
the
beneficial
owners
of
the
interest
referred
to
in
my
letter
to
you
of
November
10,
1976
were
in
fact
residents
of
the
United
States
and
that
was
the
basis
for
the
decision
not
to
assess
as
requested
in
my
letter.
I
take
it
from
that
that
the
Department
investigated
the
particular
cases
referred
to
in
my
letter
to
you
of
November
10
and
found
to
its
satisfaction
that
the
beneficial
owners
of
the
interest
in
question
were
in
truth
US
residents
entitled
to
the
lower
treaty
rate.
My
client
is
still
anxious
to
have
an
opportunity
to
test
the
validity
of
the
requirements
set
forth
in
paragraph
4
of
Information
Circular
76-12,
and
to
that
end
I
enclose
herewith
a
schedule
identifying
some
additional
apparent
nominee
accounts
in
respect
of
which
withholding
tax
was
withheld
at
the
15%
rate
on
interest
payments
on
July
15
last.
This
is
to
request
that
you
initiate
whatever
investigations
the
Department
feels
appropriate
and
assess
MacMillan
Bloedel
Limited
in
accordance
with
Information
Circular
76-12
with
respect
to
those
cases
in
which
the
beneficial
owner
is
not
an
American
resident.
I
might
say
that
the
accounts
selected
are
all
accounts
in
respect
of
which
MacMillan
Bloedel
Limited
has
not
received
any
certificate
regarding
beneficial
ownership.
We
are
still
interested
in
pursuing
this
question
as
soon
as
possible,
and
I
would
accordingly
appreciate
anything
you
can
do
to
move
the
matter
along
without
delay.
National
Revenue
replied
by
letter
of
October
17,
1977,
as
follows:
With
reference
to
your
letter
of
September
8,1977,
with
regards
to
withholding
tax
on
interest
and
the
rate
to
be
applied,
our
Head
Office
has
requested
that
we
obtain
the
addresses
of
the
five
nominees
or
agents
listed,
which
would
assist
us
in
our
administration
of
this
particular
issue.
If
you
could
arrange
to
have
the
addresses
of
the
nominees
sent
to
my
attention,
we
will
then
complete
our
review,
and
advise
you
of
our
decision
as
to
whether
an
assessment
will
be
raised
at
this
time.
That
letter
produced
the
following
reply
from
counsel
for
the
appellant
dated
October
26,
1977:
Thank
you
for
your
letter
of
October
17.
The
following
are
the
addresses
you
request:
Ruth
&
Co,
c/o
R
I
Hosp
Tr
Natl
Bk,
Box
1558,
Providence
RI
02901
Bull
&
Co,
c/o
Wachovia
Bk
&
Tr
Co,
Box
3075,
Winston,
Salem
NC
27102
Paine,
Webber,
Jackson
&
Curtis
Inc,
25
Broad
Street,
New
York,
NY
10004
Galt
&
Co,
New
England
Merchants
Natl
Bank,
PC
Box
4521,
Tr
Dept,
Boston,
Mass
02107
Hare
&
Co,
c/o
The
Bank
of
NY,
Box
11203,
New
York,
NY
10249.
Counsel
for
the
appellant,
at
this
point,
referred
to
the
reply
to
the
notice
of
appeal
(sic)
and
paragraph
5(a)
thereof
which
reads
as
follows:
the
Appellant
paid
two
registered
holders
amounts
of
interest
as
set
out
below
and
in
so
doing
withheld
(or
deducted)
and
remitted
to
the
Receiver
General
of
Canada,
tax
purportedly
pursuant
to
Part
XIII
at
a
rate
of
15%,
not
at
the
rate
of
25%
established
by
Section
212(1):
|
Amount
|
Paid
to
|
Interest
|
Interest
|
Withheld
&
|
Registered
|
Amount
|
Amount
|
Remitted
|
Holder
|
Gross
|
Gross
|
(at
15%)
|
Hare
&
Co
|
|
c/o
Bank
of
New
York
|
|
New
York,
New
York
|
|
$4,875.00
|
$731.25
|
Paine,
Webber
&
Co
|
|
25
Broad
Street
|
|
New
York,
New
York
|
|
$
162.50
|
$
24.38
|
He
then
stated
as
follows:
And,
if
you
turn
to
the
reply
to
the
Notice
of
Appeal,
this
is
just
to
help
the
Board
tie
in
to
the
assessment
that
has
been
made,
in
paragraph
5(a)
of
the
reply,
you
will
find
that
the
figures
there
mentioned,
which
are
the
figures
that
tie
into
the
assessment
that
is
under
appeal,
relate
to
Hare
&
Co
and
Paine,
Webber
&
Co,
which
is
Paine,
Webber,
Jackson
&
Curtis,
so
that
it
would
appear
from
that
that
the
Department
satisfied
itself
that
the
other
three
nominees
were
holding
for
US
residents
who
owned
beneficially,
but
Paine,
Webber,
Jackson
&
Curtis
and
Hare
&
Co
were
the
two
that,
and
I
think
my
friend
will
know
this
better
than
I,
I
think
simply
didn’t
respond
to
the
enquiries
made
by
the
Department.
Arithmetically
the
parties
agreed
that,
if
the
Minister
were
correct
in
his
position,
then
the
quantum
of
the
assessment
was
correct.
Of
course
it
follows
that,
if
the
appellant
were
correct
in
his
position
that
Part
XI
of
the
Canada-US
Tax
Convention
applies,
then
in
these
circumstances
that
assessment
would
have
to
be
vacated;
that
is,
the
assessment
in
question
assesses
only
a
non-resident
tax
which
the
appellant
should
have
collected
and,
from
its
failure
to
do
so,
a
penalty
of
10%
and
interest.
If
the
nonresident
tax
were
incorrect,
then
there
is
nothing
to
be
assessed
as
there
could
be
neither
penalty
nor
interest.
The
assessment
has
nothing
to
do
with
the
imposition
of
tax
based
on
the
income
of
the
appellant—it
is
only
concerned
with
the
failure
by
the
appellant
to
deduct
the
appropriate
amount
of
non-resident
tax
on
interest
it
paid
to
a
non-resident.
The
witness
for
the
appellant
clearly
said
that
the
two
companies
mentioned
in
paragraph
5(a)
of
the
reply
to
the
notice
of
appeal
were
on
the
one
hand
a
“large
firm
of
stockbrokers”,
and
on
the
other
“...
the
nominee,
the
Bank
of
New
York—they
use
that
name
to
put
customers’
accounts
into.”
He
continued
that
‘‘we
are
well
aware
that
they
are
also
residents
of
New
York.”
Cross-examination
brought
out
that
in
reality,
except
for
the
instance
when
it
did
not
try
for
the
appropriate
certification,
the
appellant
received
100%
compliance.
It
did
not
try
for
the
certification
in
the
matters
mentioned
in
the
correspondence
in
which
Mr
Garland
said,
in
effect,
we
accept.
It
also
did
not
try
in
the
five
matters
referred
to
in
Mr
Thorsteinsson’s
letter,
when
two
were
not
accepted.
Counsel
for
the
appellant
took
the
position
that
nowhere
in
the
Income
Tax
Act,
the
Regulations
or
the
Canada-US
Tax
Convention
is
there
a
requirement
that
the
payer
of
interest
must
seek
out
the
beneficial
owner
of
the
income
for
the
payment
which
is
being
made.
Of
course
it
was
pointed
out
that
if
such
inquiry
were
to
be
made,
all
such
inquiries
would
have
to
be
in
a
foreign
country.
Counsel
for
the
appellant
also
submitted
that
this
income
tax
legislation
must
be
taken
to
have
been
enacted
within
the
background
of
the
principles
of
company
law.
Counsel
stated
that
the
Companies
Act
of
British
Columbia
provides
for
registration
type
companies,
which
concept
is
derived
from
the
English
Companies
Acts.
To
support
his
proposition
that
the
company
is
not
required
to
pay
attention
to
trust
or
equities
affecting
beneficial
ownership
of
its
securities,
be
they
shares
or
bonds,
counsel
referred
to
Gower
on
Modern
Company
Law
at
401
as
follows:
Moreover,
it
is
the
policy
of
our
company
law
that
the
company
shall
not
be
concerned
with
the
beneficial
ownership
but
shall
only
be
bound
or
entitled
to
recognise
the
person
whose
name
is
on
the
register.
Accordingly,
so
far
as
registered
companies
are
concerned,
section
117
of
the
1948
Act
provides
that
no
notice
of
any
trust,
expressed,
implied
or
constructive,
shall
be
entered
on
the
register
or
be
receivable
by
the
registrar.
and
at
p
416
as
follows:
On
the
initial
issue
of
debentures
the
register
of
debentures
does
not
have
the
same
importance
as
the
register
of
members,
since
the
only
essential
element
in
becoming
a
debentureholder
is
agreement,
and
entry
on
the
register
is
not
necessary.
But
as
in
the
case
of
shares,
this
agreement
is
normally
constituted
by
a
prospectus
followed
by
application,
allotment,
and
letter
of
allotment,
superseded
in
due
course
by
the
issue
of
the
debenture
itself
or
a
debenture
stock
certificate.
And
in
practice
the
debenture
will
contain
provisions
for
a
register
of
debentures
similar
to
the
register
of
members,
and
similarly
precluding
the
company
from
taking
notice
of
“equities,”
and
will
be
transferable
by
the
same
form
of
transfer
as
is
used
for
shares.
The
result
is
that
on
transfer
the
same
procedure
is
adopted
as
in
the
case
of
shares,
the
same
distinction
is
drawn
between
legal
ownership
of
the
debenture,
obtained
by
registration,
and
the
equitable
ownership
of
an
unregistered
transferee,
giving
rise
to
the
same
rules
regarding
priorities
as
those
explored
in
the
previous
chapter.
He
then
referred
to
section
72
of
the
Companies
Act
of
British
Columbia
which
reads
as
follows:
The
negotiation
of
a
cheque
by,
or
the
acknowledgment
of
receipt
by,
any
person
whose
name
is
entered
in
the
register
of
members,
whether
or
not
registered
in
a
representative
capacity,
is
a
valid
discharge
to
a
company
for
any
dividend
or
sum
paid
or
property
transferred
by
it
in
respect
of
any
share
registered
in
the
name
of
the
person,
and
the
company
is
not
bound
to
see
to
the
execution
of
any
trust,
express,
implied,
or
constructive,
in
respect
of
shares
of
the
company.
All
things
being
considered,
counsel
submitted
that
the
requirement
which
the
respondent
is
trying
to
impose
must
be
set
forth
clearly
in
the
words
of
the
statute
and,
since
such
is
not
the
case,
the
position
taken
by
the
Crown
is
untenable.
Counsel
for
the
Crown
contended
that
the
tax
assessed
pursuant
to
Part
XIII
of
the
Income
Tax
Act
after
tax
reform
is
a
tax
on
income
and
the
beneficial
owner
is
the
person
on
whose
behalf
the
appellant
is,
by
paragraph
212(1)(b),
to
pay
that
tax.
Consequently,
to
have
the
rate
of
tax
reduced
from
25%
to
15%
as
provided
by
subsection
10(4)
of
the
Income
Tax
Application
Rules,
or
the
Canada-US
Tax
Convention,
it
is
encumbent
on
the
appellant
to
show
that
that
beneficial
owner
is
in
effect
a
resident
of
a
treaty
country.
In
the
course
of
the
argument
reference
was
made
to
subsection
215(3)
of
the
Income
Tax
Act.
This
section
seems
to
say
that,
if
the
Canadian
payer
pays
interest
to
the
Canadian
agent
of
a
non-resident
(which
fact
is
known
to
the
Canadian
payer),
the
Canadian
payer
is
not
required
to
deduct
or
withhold
tax
but
the
Canadian
agent
is
to
deduct
or
withhold
the
whole
amount
or
the
shortage,
if
any,
from
the
payment
to
the
non-resident.
Counsel
for
the
appellant
suggested
that,
with
respect
to
paragraph
212(1
)(b)
of
the
Income
Tax
Act
and
the
Canada-US
Tax
Convention
or
the
Income
Tax
Application
Rules,
the
same
principle
should
apply
with
respect
to
‘‘an
address”—even
though
the
person
at
that
address
may
be
an
agent—as
applies
in
subsection
215(3).
The
payer
does
what
he
has
to
do
insofar
as
the
Income
Tax
Act
is
concerned
based
on
the
address
of
the
payee—not
the
beneficial
owner.
Consequently,
since
in
this
cse
the
address
of
the
“apparent
nominee”
is
in
the
United
States,
the
Canada-US
Tax
Convention
applies
and
only
15%
should
be
deducted.
Two
other
points
were
mentioned,
the
first
being
the
question
of
onus,
and
the
second
being
the
question
of
pleadings.
It
was
contended
that
the
appellant
had
not
met
the
onus
of
showing
that
the
assessment
was
incorrect;
that
is,
it
had
not
shown
that
the
beneficial
owners
were
residents
of
the
United
States,
and
so
the
appeal
should
be
dismissed.
While
the
appellant
did
not
say
it
had
tried
to
ascertain
the
identity
of
the
beneficial
owners
(if
any)
of
the
bonds
in
the
name
of
Hare
&
Co
and
Paine,
Webber
&
Co,
it
in
fact
did
not
try
to
learn
those
names
as
it
had
no
authority
to
demand
such
information.
It
was
impossible
for
it
to
compel
the
“apparent
nominee”
to
give
that
information.
In
addition
it
is
to
be
noted
that
counsel
for
the
appellant,
by
letter
of
October
26,
1977,
gave
to
the
Crown
the
names
of
five
“apparent
nominees”
to
whom
payments
were
made
in
respect
of
which
only
15%
had
been
deducted
pursuant
to
section
212
of
the
Income
Tax
Act
and
the
Canada-US
Tax
Convention.
The
reply
to
the
notice
of
appeal
says
the
assessment
under
appeal
was
made
with
respect
to
only
two
of
those
“apparent
nominees”.
It
would
appear
by
that
Reply
and
from
the
letter
from
the
Department
of
National
Revenue
(May
19,
1977)
that
the
Minister
made
his
own
investigation
as
to
the
residency
of
some
of
the
beneficial
owners
of
the
“apparent
nominees”,
or
came
to
the
conclusion
that
some
“apparent
nominees”
were
not
“apparent
nominees”
at
all
but
were
the
beneficial
owners.
Paragraph
212(1)(b)
reads
as
follows:
(1)
Every
non-resident
person
shall
pay
an
income
tax
of
25%
on
every
amount
that
a
person
resident
in
Canada
pays
or
credits,
or
is
deemed
by
Part
I
to
pay
or
credit,
to
him
as,
on
account
or
in
lieu
of
payment
of,
or
in
satisfaction
of,
(b)
interest
except
..
.
A
tax
is
levied
by
this
section
on
the
non-resident
person
to
whom
the
appellant
paid
interest.
That
rate
is
clearly
25%.
To
whom
did
the
appellant
pay
that
interest?
It
paid
that
interest
to
the
person
who
was
the
registered
owner
of
those
debentures
as
shown
by
its
books.
Those
two
persons
were:
(a)
Hare
&
Co
c/o
Bank
of
New
York
New
York,
New
York;
(b)
Paine,
Webber
&
Co
25
Broad
Street
New
York,
New
York.
Both
counsel
agreed
that
section
10(4)
of
the
Income
Tax
Application
Rules
and
Article
XI
of
the
Canada-US
Tax
Convention
applied.
Subsection
10(4)
of
the
Income
Tax
Application
Rules
reads
as
follows:
Where
an
amount
is
paid
or
credited
by
a
person
resident
in
Canada
to
a
nonresident
person
(a)
who
is
resident
in
a
prescribed
country,
and
(b)
with
whom
the
person
resident
in
Canada
was
dealing
at
arm’s
length,
as,
on
account
or
in
lieu
of
payment
of,
or
in
satisfaction
of,
interest
payable
on
any
bond,
debenture,
mortgage,
hypothec,
note
or
similar
obligation
issued
before
1976
by
the
person
resident
in
Canada
to
the
non-resident
person,
for
the
purposes
of
computing
the
tax
under
Part
XIII
of
the
amended
Act
payable
by
the
nonresident
person
on
the
amount,
subsection
212(1)
thereof
shall
be
read
as
if
the
reference
therein
to
“25%”
were
read
as
a
reference
to
“15%”.
Article
XI
of
the
Canada-US
Tax
Convention
reads
as
follows:
1.
The
rate
of
income
tax
imposed
by
one
of
the
contracting
States,
in
respect
of
income
(other
than
earned
income)
derived
from
sources
therein,
upon
individuals
residing
in,
or
corporations
organized
under
the
laws
of,
the
other
contracting
State,
and
not
having
a
permanent
establishment
in
the
former
State,
shall
not
exceed
fifteen
percent
for
each
taxable
year.
First
of
all,
if
the
payee
is
a
resident
of
the
United
States
in
this
instance
and
otherwise
satisfies
the
subsection
or
sub-Article,
the
rate
then
is
to
be
only
15%.
Insofar
as
the
appellant
is
concerned,
even
though
its
officers
classified
the
two
recipients
in
question
as
“apparent
nominees”,
they
are,
in
the
terms
of
subsection
10(4),
.
resident
in
a
prescribed
country
.
.
or,
in
the
terms
of
Article
Xl(1
),
.
.
individuals
residing
in,
or
corporations
organized
under
the
laws
of
the
other
contracting
State
.
.
As
I
view
this
assessment,
one
can
say
that
it
can
be
upheld
only
if
words
are
added
to
the
Act
and
the
Canada-US
Tax
Convention
or
subsection
10(4)
of
the
Income
Tax
Application
Rules
so
that
it
is
clearly
indicated
that
the
reduced
rate
of
tax
is
not
given
to
the
registered
owner,
but
only
to
the
registered
owner
if
he
establishes
that
the
beneficial
owner
(and
he
could
be
the
registered
owner)
of
the
interest
would
be
entitled
to
the
reduction
if
the
debentures
were
registered
in
his
name.
Whether
or
not
the
beneficial
owner
could
recover
the
excess
tax
deducted
by
making
an
application
to
the
Minister
of
National
Revenue
(section
227)
is
irrelevant.
“What
is
the
duty
of
the
appellant
in
this
case?”
is
the
issue.
I
am
of
the
view
that,
in
the
circumstances,
since
the
payees
in
question
were
residents
in
a
prescribed
country
as
well
as
being
a
corporation
organized
under
the
laws
of
the
other
contracting
state,
the
appeal
must
be
allowed
and
the
assessment
vacated.
Appeal
allowed.