Bowman
T
.
C.J.:
These
appeals
are
from
assessments
for
the
appellant’s
1993
and
1994
taxation
years.
The
issue
is
the
appellant’s
right
to
deduct
payments
made
to
his
former
spouse
of
$3,000
and
$8,780
respectively.
The
appellant
and
his
former
spouse
married
in
1977
and
separated
in
May
1993.
Between
May
of
1993
and
December
1994
payments
were
made
to
his
wife,
generally
at
the
rate
of
$400
per
month
for
the
maintenance
of
his
children.
These
amounts
varied
from
time
to
time
depending
upon
whether
any
of
the
three
children
resided
with
him.
The
payments
were
made
out
of
the
family
trust,
the
C.R.
Sinclare
Family
Trust.
On
December
5,
1994
Mr.
Justice
McKenzie
of
the
Supreme
Court
of
British
Columbia
made
an
order
relating
to
a
number
of
financial
matters
between
the
spouses.
The
order
was
entered
on
May
25,
1995
at
the
Nanaimo
Registry
of
the
Court.
The
order
reads
in
part
as
follows:
AND
THIS
COURT
FURTHER
ORDERS
AND
CONFIRMS
that
the
Petitioner,
CHRISTOPHER
ROSS
SINCLARE,
has
paid
to
the
Respondent,
JULIE
DIANNE
ELIZABETH
SINCLARE,
for
the
children,
SPENCER
MACDONALD
SINCLARE,
born
the
15th
day
of
April,
1978,
and
KRISTEN
ELIZABETH
ANNE
SINCLARE,
born
the
31st
day
of
August,
1980,
the
following
amounts
as
interim
child
maintenance:
for
the
month
of
May,
1993,
the
sum
of
FIVE
HUNDRED
($500.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
June,
1993,
the
sum
of
EIGHT
HUNDRED
($800.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
August,
1993,
the
sum
of
FOUR
HUNDRED
($400.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
October,
1993,
the
sum
of
FIVE
HUNDRED
($500.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
November,
1993,
the
sum
of
FOUR
HUNDRED
($400.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
December,
1993,
the
sum
of
FOUR
HUNDRED
($400.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
February,
1994,
the
sum
of
FOUR
HUNDRED
AND
EIGHTY
($480.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
March,
1994,
the
sum
of
TWELVE
HUNDRED
($1,200.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
April,
1994,
the
sum
of
TWELVE
HUNDRED
($1,200.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
May,
1994,
the
sum
of
TWELVE
HUNDRED
($1,200.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
June,
1994,
the
sum
of
EIGHT
HUNDRED
($800.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
July,
1994,
the
sum
of
EIGHT
HUNDRED
($800.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
August,
1994,
the
sum
of
SEVEN
HUNDRED
($700.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
September,
1994,
the
sum
of
EIGHT
HUNDRED
($800.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
October,
1994,
the
sum
of
EIGHT
HUNDRED
($800.00)
DOLLARS;
for
the
month
of
November,
1994,
the
sum
of
EIGHT
HUNDRED
($800.00)
DOLLARS,
subject
to
any
dispute
by
the
Respondent
as
to
the
sums
above;
AND
THIS
COURT
FURTHER
ORDERS
that
commencing
the
1st
day
of
December,
1994,
and
on
the
1st
day
of
each
and
every
month
thereafter
the
Petitioner,
CHRISTOPHER
ROSS
SINCLARE,
shall
pay
to
the
Respondent,
JULIE
DIANNE
ELIZABETH
SINCLARE,
interim
maintenance
in
the
sum
of
FOUR
HUNDRED
($400.00)
DOLLARS
per
month
per
child
for
the
children,
SPENCER
MACDONALD
SINCLARE,
born
the
15th
day
of
April,
1978,
and
KRISTEN
ELIZABETH
ANNE
SINCLARE,
born
the
31
st
day
of
August,
1980;
AND
THIS
COURT
FURTHER
ORDERS
that
the
FOUR
HUNDRED
($400.00)
DOLLARS
per
month
to
be
paid
to
the
Respondent,
JULIE
DIANNE
ELIZABETH
SINCLARE,
for
the
child,
SPENCER
MACDONALD
SIN-
CLARE,
born
the
15th
day
of
April,
1978,
is
to
be
paid
to
the
Respondent
on
the
basis
that
the
Respondent
will
remit
that
amount
to
her
parents,
DONALD
AND
IRENE
MACDONALD,
for
so
long
as
Spencer
Macdonald
Sinclare
continues
to
reside
on
a
day-to-day
basis
with
the
Respondent’s
parents,
DONALD
AND
IRENE
MACDONALD.
The
appellant
put
in
evidence,
with
the
consent
of
counsel
for
the
respondent,
a
transcript
of
the
oral
comments
of
Mr.
Justice
McKenzie,
as
well
as
the
comments
of
counsel
for
the
parties,
Mr.
Vining
for
the
Appellant
and
Ms.
Poles
for
his
spouse.
The
transcript
reads
in
part
as
follows:
THE
COURT:
I
think
there
should
be
maintenance
for
the
two
children
in
the
amount
of
$400.00
each
that
is
being
paid
now.
The
amount
for
Kristen
to
be
paid
to
the
wife,
to
be
disbursed
by
her
in
the
normal
course
of
household
living
expenses;
the
amount
for
Spencer
to
be
paid
to
the
wife
on
the
basis
that
she
will
remit
that
amount
to
her
parents
for
the
support
of
Spencer
while
Spencer
continues
to
reside
with
the
parents.
MR.
VINING:
One
other
comment
I
have.
Because
he
has
been
paying
this
maintenance
payment
now,
I
think
they
do
agree
he’s
been
paying
since
May
of
’93,
I
wasn’t
able
over
the
weekend
to
get
copies
of
all
of
the
cancelled
cheques
but
I
do
have
them
now,
and
an
affidavit
which
I
just
brought
to
the
Court
with
me,
I’ve
given
my
friend
a
copy.
And
I’m
asking
then
that
under
the
Divorce
Act,
section
16,
that
you
are
at
liberty
to
make
the
order
retroactive
so
he
can
get
a
tax
deduction
for
all
of
those
payments.
They’ve
all
been
listed.
I
suspect
my
friend
will
have
to
go
through
them
to
confirm
that
she
did,
in
fact,
receive
those
payments.
So,
I
would
ask
that
subject
to
any
dispute
as
to
those
monies,
that
the
order
be
made
that
he
get
the
order
retroactive
to
May
of
’93
to
get
credit
for
these
payments
he
has
made.
The
Court:
Yes,
that
sounds
reasonable.
MS.
POLES:
My
lord,
I
have
comments
to
make
with
respect
to
that.
This
is
the
first
time
I’ve
seen
these.
And,
those
payments
were
made,
as
I
understand,
directly
from
the
family
trust,
they
do
not
attract
tax.
MR.
VINING:
They’re
out
of
his
money
from
his
earnings
as
a
lawyer,
so
if
he
gets
it
out
of
the
family
trust
or
gets
it
out
of
his
own
pocket,
it’s
money
that’s
come
out
of
his
hide,
as
it
were.
I
can
realize
that
she’s
not
had
a
chance
to
look
at
it
yet,
that’s
why
I’ve
allowed
her
liberty
to
apply
if
she
didn’t
agree.
The
Court:
I
think
it’s
reasonable,
Miss
Poles,
particularly
as
the
husband
is
going
to
have
to
be
making
substantial
cash
payments
on
the
mortgage
that
he’s
not
going
to
get
a
tax
break.
On
September
7,
1995
Mr.
Justice
Harvey
made
a
further
order
relating
to
maintenance
and
custody
of
the
children,
as
well
as
other
financial
matters
between
the
spouses.
The
order
reads
in
part
as
follows:
AND
THIS
COURT
FURTHER
ORDERS
that
both
the
Petitioner
and
the
Respondent
shall
be
solely
liable
and
responsible
for
any
personal
income
tax
debt
owing
from
the
marriage,
both
prior
to
separation
and
since
the
separation
of
the
parties,
which
occurred
on
or
about
the
7th
day
of
May,
1993.
The
Respondent,
Julie
Dianne
Elizabeth
Sinclare,
however,
is
responsible
for
any
tax
consequences
arising
from
prior
maintenance
payments
made
by
the
Petitioner,
Christopher
Ross
Sinclare,
to
the
Respondent,
Julie
Dianne
Elizabeth
Sinclare,
for
the
children
pursuant
to
previous
Orders
of
this
Court.
The
order
was
approved
and
consented
to
by
the
appellant’s
lawyer
and
by
Julie
Sinclare
personally.
At
that
point
she
was
having
a
dispute
with
her
lawyer
over
fees,
and
presumably
did
not
have
the
benefit
of
independent
legal
advice.
The
appellant’s
accountant
applied,
at
some
point
after
the
court
order
of
December
1994,
to
refile
the
appellant’s
and
the
family
trust’s
return
to
show
dividends
received
by
the
trust
from
the
appellant’s
law
corporation
as
having
been
received
personally
by
him.
Reassessments
were
issued
to
give
effect
to
this
change.
I
presume
the
purpose
of
the
refiling
was
to
reverse
the
effect
of
the
payments
having
been
made
to
Mrs.
Sinclare
in
1993
and
1994
by
the
trust,
and
to
permit
them
to
be
deducted
by
Mr.
Sinclare.
There
is
no
evidence
that
at
the
time
of
refiling,
the
Department
of
National
Revenue
was
told
that
this
was
the
purpose,
or
that
it
ever
agreed
that
it
had
that
effect.
Mr.
Sinclare
contends
that
the
payments
set
out
in
Mr.
Justice
McKenzie’s
order
of
December
5,
1994
are
deductible
by
him
under
paragraph
60(c)
of
the
Income
Tax
Act
which
in
1993
and
1994
permitted
a
deduction
as
follows:
(c)
maintenance
—
an
amount
paid
by
the
taxpayer
in
the
year
as
an
allowance
payable
on
a
periodic
basis
for
the
maintenance
of
the
recipient,
children
of
the
recipient
or
both
the
recipient
and
the
children,
if
(i)
at
the
time
the
amount
was
paid
and
throughout
the
remainder
of
the
year
the
taxpayer
was
living
separate
and
apart
from
the
recipient,
(ii)
the
taxpayer
is
the
natural
parent
of
a
child
of
the
recipient,
and
(iii)
the
amount
was
received
under
an
order
made
by
a
competent
tribunal
in
accordance
with
the
laws
of
a
province.
He
contends
further
that
Mr.
Justice
McKenzie’s
order
and
the
transcript
of
his
and
counsel’s
remarks,
reproduced
above,
as
well
as
Mr.
Justice
Harvey’s
order,
if
read
together,
have
the
effect
of
causing
the
payments
to
fall
within
subsection
60.1(3)
of
the
Act
which
read
as
follows
in
the
years
in
question:
(3)
For
the
purposes
of
this
section
and
section
60,
where
a
decree,
order
or
judgment
of
a
competent
tribunal
or
a
written
agreement
made
at
any
time
in
a
taxation
year
provides
that
an
amount
paid
before
that
time
and
in
the
year
or
the
preceding
taxation
year
is
to
be
considered
to
have
been
paid
and
received
thereunder,
the
amount
shall
be
deemed
to
have
been
paid
thereunder.
There
are
a
number
of
difficulties
with
this
position.
In
the
first
place,
the
payments
were
made
by
the
family
trust,
not
by
the
appellant.
Refiling
the
tax
returns
to
treat
the
dividend
income
paid
to
the
trust
as
the
appellant’s
income
does
not
have
the
effect
of
converting
payments
made
by
the
trust
into
payments
made
by
the
appellant.
I
recognize
that
the
order
of
December
5,
1994
declares
Mr.
Sinclare
to
have
made
the
payments.
It
would
however
be
pushing
the
principle
enunciated
in
Dale
v.
R.
(1997),
97
D.T.C.
5252
(Fed.
C.A.)
far
beyond
what
can
reasonably
be
expected
to
be
its
ambit
to
hold
that
a
declaration
by
a
court
that
a
taxpayer
made
payments
which
he
demonstrably
did
not,
can
oblige
this
court
to
treat
him
as
having
made
the
payments
for
the
purposes
of
paragraph
60(c)
of
the
Act.
Even
if
that
hurdle
were
overcome,
the
next
problem
is
that
I
do
not
think
the
orders
of
Mr.
Justice
McKenzie
and
Mr.
Justice
Harvey,
even
if
read
with
the
transcript,
can
reasonably
be
read
as
implying
that
the
prior
payments
are
to
be
treated
as
having
been
made
pursuant
to
the
order
of
Mr.
Justice
McKenzie.
In
Hay
v.
R.,
[1997]
2
C.T.C.
2305
(T.C.C.),
I
held
that
it
was
unnecessary
that
the
precise
wording
of
subsection
60.1(3)
be
referred
to,
or
that
the
subsection
be
expressly
mentioned,
provided
that
the
court
could
find,
by
necessary
implication,
that
the
parties
clearly
intended
subsection
60.1(3)
to
apply.
No
such
clear
intent
is
apparent
here.
The
order
of
Mr.
Justice
McKenzie
simply
recites
that
the
payments
were
made.
So
far
as
the
transcript
of
the
remarks
of
Mr.
Justice
McKenzie
and
the
two
counsel
is
concerned,
I
have
never
before
heard
of
extrinsic
materials
such
as
a
transcript
of
the
judge’s
or
counsel’s
comments
being
used
to
interpret
a
court
order.
I
recognize
that
there
seems
to
be
a
trend
recently
to
use
extrinsic
materials
in
the
interpretation
of
legislation
and
there
may
be
a
few
exceptions
to
the
parol
evidence
rule
in
construing
written
contracts.
However,
it
is
a
novel
proposition
that
one
may
look
to
remarks
made
by
a
judge
or
counsel
in
construing
a
formal
order,
judgment
or
reasons
for
judgment
rendered
by
that
judge.
Judges
are
presumed,
rightly
or
wrongly,
to
know
what
they
are
saying,
to
mean
what
they
say
and
to
be
capable
of
saying
what
they
mean.
I
doubt
that
there
is
a
judge
in
Canada
who
would
want
his
or
her
formal
pronouncements
interpreted
by
comments
that
he
or
she
made
in
the
course
of
argument.
However,
even
if
reference
to
the
transcript
were
permissible,
it
does
not
help
the
appellant.
Counsel
asked
that
the
order
be
made
retroactive,
the
judge
seemed
to
think
it
was
a
reasonable
request,
but
counsel
for
Mrs.
Sinclare
certainly
did
not
agree
and
observed
that
since
the
payments
were
made
out
of
the
family
trust
they
did
not
attract
tax.
There
was
no
meeting
of
minds
between
counsel,
and,
whatever
the
judge
may
have
thought,
it
was
not
reflected
in
the
formal
order.
The
order
of
Mr.
Justice
Harvey
does
not
make
the
prior
payments
subject
to
subsection
60.1(3).
It
simply
provides
that
Mrs.
Sinclare
is
responsible
for
any
income
tax
consequences
arising
from
prior
maintenance
payments
made
by
Christopher
Ross
Sinclare
to
her
for
the
children
“pursuant
to
previous
orders
of
the
Court.”
The
payments
in
question
in
these
appeals
were
not
made
pursuant
to
orders
of
the
court
at
all.
I
observe
that
the
order
of
Mr.
Justice
Harvey
was
approved
personally
by
Mrs.
Sinclare
and
not
by
counsel.
This
is
sufficient
to
dispose
of
the
appeals.
I
do
not
therefore
need
to
deal
with
the
Crown’s
position
that
the
payments
were
not
periodic
beyond
observing
that
they
had
a
certain
rough
periodicity
to
them.
The
simple
fact
is
they
were
not
made
pursuant
to
a
court
order
or
a
written
agreement,
nor
were
they
deemed
to
be
by
subsection
60.1(3).
The
appeals
are
dismissed.
Appeal
dismissed.